The second half of the posted conversation shows that the James is well read on the subject, leaving Kavanagh floundering for answers to the many questions James poses.
From http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006370641,00.html
From: Steve James
To: Kavanagh, Trevor
Sent: Mon 14 Aug 2006 12:11
Trevor,
Thank you for replying to my email. As regards the Twin Towers collapsing, the official explanation is ridiculous.
I saw the documentary that explained the collapse as well. Can I ask then if the floors collapsed intact onto one another why then there were not any intact lumps of concrete? All the concrete in the Towers was pulverized, was it pulverized as it was coming down? Why did the Towers fall at such high speed? What about all the reports from the day from firemen, policemen and civilians of numerous explosions within the Towers? What about the "squibs" you can see going off as the Towers fall? If you watch a controlled demolition of similar buildings you see the exact same "squibs".
Have you seen the clip of WTC7 where you can see the explosions running up the corner of the building? Remember that WTC7 was not hit by an aircraft and only had a few small fires burning, even NIST & the 9/11 Commission couldn't explain that collapse. This was the only steel framed building before and since to collapse from a fire; the fact that no one seems worried about other steel framed buildings collapsing from fire is surely a sign of an intentional collapse.
What about the 1975 World Trade Center fire that spread over several floors? That fire never caused the Tower to collapse. What about the fact Larry Silverstein took over the leasehold six weeks before 9/11 and took out special terrorist insurance which has made him billions of dollars? What about the fact that two firemen reached the 78th floor of the South Tower three minutes before its collapse and reported only two small fires that could be put out with two lines?
Don't forget both Towers were hit differently: the North Tower head and the South Tower on the corner with most of the jet fuel exploding outside, yet they collapsed in exactly the same way. What about the molten steel found at Ground Zero weeks after the collapse? You do not get molten steel from an office fire. What about the fact the Towers were full of asbestos and it would have cost far too much to remove it properly? If terrorists had been planning the attacks for years, why did they attack first thing in the morning? If they had attacked later in the day, the death toll would have been a lot higher. Why not fly the planes in lower and trap more people?
I don't know what happend to the plane that was meant to have hit the Pentagon; all I know is there is no way you could fit a plane into the hole that was left at the Pentagon. And why was there no plane wreckage outside the hole? Why did the Pentagon announce the day before 9/11 that trillions of dollars were missing? It's well known that bad news is given on a Friday so it can be forgotten over the weekend but this was announced on the Monday. But for me above all, how can the most secure building in the world be hit by anything?
The Government's inability to answer these questions is the reason half of America believes the Government's involvement in 9/11. I know people will find a conspiracy in anything but there are so many unanswered questions over 9/11. I am not saying that I know who was behind the attacks because I don't, but I know a sick man sitting in a cave on the other side of the world wasn’t responsible.
Thank you for your time, not many journalists take the time to reply to emails so I appreciate that you did.
Regards,
Steve
From: Kavanagh, Trevor
To: Steve James
Sent: Mon 14 Aug 2006 12:44
Thanks, Steve,
I always respond unless someone gets too abusive (which they occasionally do!).
But just on the points you raise, is it really feasible that a US President would order the mass murder of his own citizens; that he would be able to even begin organising such a complex act of destruction requiring split-second coordination, in full view of the billions watching live on TV and get away with it for five years without a single shred of actual (as opposed to presumed) evidence emerging from anyone of what must have been many people involved?
America is famously clumsy and even obtuse, perhaps sometimes ruthless and secretive. But its political structures are also famously assiduous in tracking down any misdeeds by its leaders - especially in the run up to elections. I haven't heard a whisper from any credible source.
TK
Kavanagh assumes that Bush ordered "the mass murder of his own citizens". There are plenty of other sick maniacs who would order mass murder, and plenty who would carry such an order out, but I doubt Bush would. And Kavanagh's arrogance shows with this final sentence, "I haven't heard a whisper from any credible source.". As if the conspirators would tell Kavanagh!!
Although Bush is the President it is well understood that Cheney is the man running the show. And Cheney himself is just a puppet taking orders. There is no doubt that Cheney has made himself very wealthy through his association with Halliburton, but even Cheney's wealth is a mere piece of shit compared to the international bankers, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and those based in the City of London. It is they who have the power. If Bush did have anything to do with the planning of 9/11 then he had approval from these people, but I doubt he had anything to do with it.
Cheney is the key. He awarded himself the power to run anti-terrorist simulations, and did so... ON 9/11!! Yeah, that's right. Cheney organised FIVE simulations of terrorist attacks for 9/11 and that week, and on the day some of them mirrored the actual attacks EXACTLY. How's that?
And further to this, while Bush was in Florida during the attacks Cheney was in the White House bunker. One attendant was Transport Secretary Norman Mineta who testified to the 9/11 commission that Cheney allowed what ever hit the Pentagon to fly unimpeded with no "shoot down" orders!! Unsurprisingly this testimony has been buried and no mention of it was made in the official 9/11 report.
But Kavanagh does not address the points that James raises, and asks the question, "how could Bush get away with it?".
I would say Bush came into the loop very late, if not at all. He was probably aware of the simulations, which could be why he sat reading "My Pet Goat", because he thought nothing of what he was being told. He expected to be told something was happening but that it was fictional, a simulation. But it wasn't. The reaction of The Secret Service should be seriously analyzed. They had access to all the reports. The same goes for NORAD and FAA, whose task it is to protect the skies, particularly over the financial centre of New York and the political centre of Washington DC.
How could 'they' get away with it for so long?
Well for starters the shock of 9/11 did the trick, and traumatized America. All the newspapers, the TV news, cable, satellite, they all bombarded America that bin Laden did it, and then Saddam did it, and they all deserve a good whoopin'. America was rushed into a war mentality in which you don't question your leaders, and it has been at war ever since, and apparenty want lots more of it! But even within minutes of the first plane hitting the WTC there were doubters. Over time the number of doubters has increased and increased. It's not just 'the usual conspiraloons' now. It's MPs, it's heads of state, it's American Military, it's moms and dads, it's blokes down the gym. They're all asking, where was the air force? why did WTC7 collapse when it wasn't hit? why did WTC1 and WTC2 collapse exactly into their footprints at free-fall speed exactly like a controlled demolition? And how come the man accused of running all this from a cave in Afghanistan is now no longer wanted by the FBI?
All I can say is, yes Trevor, there is a conspiracy.
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