Tuesday, December 23, 2014

SO WHICH WAS IT: CHERNUKHINO OR SHIZHNE?

Very quickly after MH17 was shot down the Ukraine Security Service the SBU released a set of recordings which they claim were intercepted between Ukraine separatists and Russian military officers proving that Cossacks had shot down MH17 with a BUK from Chernukhino. Shortly after they released a video of a BUK with at least one missing missile which they at first said was filmed in Krasnodon but shortly after changed this to Luhansk. At least they got that bit right because it was filmed in Luhansk.

But now the Kiev Nazi SBU say, "No, hang on, we were wrong. Those guys in Chernukhino we intercepted talking to Russian military officers were lying because MH17 was shot down by a BUK from Shizhne." And they now tell us that they, the SBU, have been in on this new 'evidence' form the start, taking control of the camera, sticks, etc from almost immediately after MH17 was shot down.

Besides the obvious huge embarrassment of releasing 'intercepted' tapes which the SBU said proved that Cossacks in Chernukhino shot down MH17 but now are changing their minds to tell us that someone they have been working with since MH17 was shot down has a photo of a plume of smoke. No photo of a BUK firing a missile, but a plume of smoke, possibly from a BUK, but equally possible from a fire. We don't know. Nobody saw a BUK in the fields south of Shizhne or Torez, but a man working very closely with the SBU for several months, the same SBU who told us that Cossacks shot down MH17 from Chernukhino, photographed a plume of smoke.

Can you begin to see my scepticism?

But to add to this scepticism, there are now huge consequences for this change of allegation, which as usual are being ignored by NATO media and their gimps. These are:
1. why would the SBU release tapes of intercepted recordings made allegedly between Cossacks and Russian military officers 'proving' that they had shot down MH17 from Chernukhino but now they say MH17 was shot down from Shizhne? Were those tapes fake? Or are these photos fake? At least one of them is. But which one? And if one of them is fake then they may both be fake. Either way we cannot trust the SBU in any way shape or form. In fact they are an international laughing stock.

2. Assuming that the SBU were and still are lying about Cossacks shooting down MH17 from Chernukhino, and that we can believe them after that terrible fraud and hoax, and that MH17 was indeed shot down from Shizhne, then the questions that I have been asking for a month or so now MUST be answered. Recall that Porky tweeted on 13th July that the Kiev Nazis were going to create a corridor to Luhansk Airport that would run from west Luhansk, through south of Luhansk to reach Luhansk Airport which is South South East of Luhansk. This led to the situation in which on the night of 17th and morning of 18th July that whole area between Shizhne and Luhansk was a war zone. So my questions are:
(i) how did a BUK in a field south of Shizhne on 17th July get to a western suburb of Luhansk at approximately 0500 on 18th July without being intercepted by Kiev Nazis?
(ii) why would a BUK be transported from Shizhne to Luhansk through a war zone when it could have been kept well away from the eyes of any Nazis?
(iii) and this is where it now gets really, really embarrassing for the SBU: why did they say that all BUKs were back in Russia by 0400 on 18th July when, if that infamous video is to be believed, the actual BUK that may have shot down MH17 was in Luhansk at approximately 0500, based on the light and sunrise time.

My theory is the following:
1. the BUK filmed in Luhansk was not filmed on 18th July but before, and was the BUK that shot down the Antonov An 26 on 14th July. This would explain why the SBU say all BUKs were in Russia by 0400 on 18th yet the alleged smoking gun BUK was filmed in almost broad daylight still at least a half hour away from the border;
2. the intercepted tapes of Cossacks at Chernukhino admitting to shooting down MH17 are fake;
3. and if so, then because the SBU have been working on these photos of a plume of smoke since almost the day after MH17 was shot down they cannot be trusted.

So my question to Higgins, Toler and Ukraine@War is:

Was MH17 shot down from Chernukhino or Shizhne?

And if you believe Shizhne then what about the SBU and their intercepted tapes and videos, doubts about which I have raised above.

Answers please, because you lot are driving us into WW3.



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