The vehicle in question, according to Ukraine, passed through Krasnadon on its way back across the border as is reflected on our map. Claims that this video was taken in Ukrainian controlled territory — in Krasnoarmeysk, have been debunked. Furthermore, The Interpreter contacted the owners of the billboard locations and were provided with a complete list of billboard locations as well as images of many of the sites. After a careful investigation we can definitively conclude that this video was recorded in Lugansk, on a road between the MH17 crash site and the border crossing near Krasnadon. The Buk, which does appear to be missing one or two missiles, is traveling in the opposite direction as previous videos which show armored vehicles which appear to have been supplied by the Russian military to the separatist militia.
[source : UPDATED Evidence Review: Who Shot Down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17?, The Interpreter, http://www.interpretermag.com/evidence-review-who-shot-down-mh17/, 15th September 2014]
So here Miller is stating with the same kind of supreme confidence as Eliot Higgins that "After a careful investigation we can definitively conclude that this video was recorded in Lugansk, on a road between the MH17 crash site and the border crossing near Krasnadon."
But where precisely in Luhansk was that BUK filmed?
Well, if you look at the map below, which is linked to by Miller, the BUK was filmed close to where the Luhansk pin is.
Now I ask, is that "on a road between the MH17 crash site and the border crossing near Krasnadon"?
Yes it is. But there is something very illogical about it. Miller's map provides a dark green route to get from the Torez area to Luhansk, but that does not go through that pin in Luhansk where the BUK with missing missiles was filmed.
OK?
But earlier in the same report Miller proposes a timeline for the transportation of BUKs in that area, and says this:
02:00-04:00 on July 18th – the Buk launchers reportedly cross the border into Russia (Ukrainian government – see below).
As far as where the missiles went afterwards, one video released by the Ukrainian government claims to show the Buk, missing several missiles, on its way back to Russia (presumably along paths highlighted on our map in black).On July 18th the Ukrainian security services issued a press release in which a Ukraine SBU (Security Service) officer explains Ukraine’s narrative — that three vehicles carrying Buk missiles came from Russia and returned back to Russia after the incident:
At 2:00, July 18, two movers each with a Buk missile launcher crossed the Russian border in Luhansk region. At 4:00, another three movers: one of them empty, other carrying a launcher with four missiles and the latter allegedly with a control unit, crossed the state border.
In other words by 0400 on 18th what ever BUKs that were previously in the Torez area were in Russia. It is 30 miles from Luhansk to Krasnodon, then another 10 miles to the border. How fast could a transporter carrying a BUK go at the maximum? Yet the video showing the BUK with missing missiles which was filmed in Luhansk shows quite good early daylight, possibly 0400 for that time of year on that kind of day.
So I ask again, are the separatists using teleportation?
And not only this, the black route on Miller's map has the BUK travelling through area controlled by Kiev Nazis as they tried to create a corridor to Luhansk Airport.
And the dark green route from Torez takes the BUK right past the war zone of Luhansk airport but not through the pin in Luhansk where Miller states that the BUK with missing missiles was filmed!!
Go to the LiveUAMap website and see what the situation on 18th July and the few days before was. West and south of Luhansk was a war zone as the Kiev Nazis created a corridor to Luhansk Airport which is SSE of Luhansk. Both the black and dark green routes of Miller cross the Kiev Nazi corridor, and the black route that crosses the pin where the BUK with missing missiles was filmed does not start in Shizhne, and the rebels claim that that BUK shot down the An 26 on 14th July.
HAVE YOU GOT IT NOW?
A magician makes you see things that are not there. Miller and Belling Cat are good magicians.
The case against the separatists using maps and videos cannot be relied upon. And neither the Miller argument or that of Belling Cat take into account that the area south and west of Luhansk was a war zone infested with Kiev Nazis as they battled to create a corridor to Luhansk Airport.
And in both cases neither Miller or Belling Cat have considered that the Ukraine military has BUKs or where they were.
No. The best case against the separatists lies solely on those intercepted phone calls. And as The (Mis)Interpeter states regarding the reliability of such evidence:
The Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) has uploaded a Youtube video with a recording of a conversation that purports to be between Igor Bezler (Bes, or "Demon"), a commander of the pro-Russian separatists, and Vasily Geranin, who is described as a colonel in the Russian Federation's GRU (main military intelligence), at 16:40, and a second conversation between two pro-Russian separatists nicknamed "Major" and "Greek".
We have no confirmation of the authenticity of these recordings at all, and in general such leaks are hard to confirm. We do recognize Bezler's voice, however, from many other videos he himself has made and from press conferences for the "Donetsk People's Republic."
[source : Ukraine Liveblog Day 150: Malaysian Passenger Jet Shot Down Over Ukraine, The Interpreter, http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-150-ukrainian-troops-describe-grad-rocket-attack-from-russia/#3398, 17th July 2014]
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